A Conservative Civil War Against the GOP – You Better Believe It! By SJ Reidhead The Pink Flamingo

November 22, 2009

Does the GOP want only “Pure” candidates? If so, they are throwing Ronald Reagan under the bus in a terrifying way that will doom the country to Democrats and turn us into a third rate country. This is SO NOT the vision of Ronald Reagan that The Pink Flamingo has problems with ANY Republican who subscribes to this theory. They are betraying the memory of Ronald Reagan, and they are betraying the country.

The GOP has a chance of doing tremendous damage to the Dems in less than a year. Will the far right behave themselves and not destroy the country? I am terrified that they are going to destroy us all.

One of the worst examples I’ve seen in ages is a

Rasmussen poll suggesting J. D. Hayworth might pose problems for John McCain in Arizona. There is an extreme far right in Arizona who would split their vote between Hayworth and that erstwhile minuteman Chris Simcox. If either man were to win, you can bet your sweet bippie that the seat will swing Dem. There is NO WAY I would vote for either Simcox or Hayworth. This is a recipe for disaster, but that seems to be what the far right wants.

FIRST: When someone uses the epitaph “

RINO” they ARE NOT Republicans. They are Third Party Conservative Losers, but they are NOT Republicans. AJ Strata is right. If these people could decently align themselves with the GOP they could help us win. Unfortunately – there is nothing decent about these people. The worst of it is the fact that Chuck DeVore, who is running against Carly Florino in CA, is going after Lindsey. DeVore is one of those far right idiots you’d better watch. He and his are going to help damn us to Dem rule, forever. Then again, GOD wants DeVore,t from what I gather. Of course we could simply be dealing with more conservative lies. They really don’t give a damn about honor and integrity any more.

Take the way Charleston’s GOP has treated Lindsey:

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Meanwhile, Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) can’t seem to catch a break, as Kate Sheppard notes for Mother Jones. The Republican Party of Charleston County, S.C. unanimously voted to censure Graham for working with Democrats on a climate bill. Charleston Country Chairwoman Lin Bennett argues that Graham has “weakened the Republican brand” and that “his work on climate legislation is the last straw.” In addition, the American Energy Alliance, a shady industry group that benefits from blocking clean energy, has reportedly spent $300,000 on advertisements to rebuke Graham for his support on climate legislation. Steve Benen of the Washington Monthly argues that Graham’s censure is particularly ridiculous because Graham has one of the most conservative voting records. According to VoteView analysis, Graham is currently the 18th most conservative member of Congress. Evidently, that is still not enough for South Carolina Republicans….”

Purple People Vote responded:

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.Senator Graham is hardly a lefty. What he is, is smart and effective. During the latest recess from Congress he served in Afghanistan as a JAG, and he has served in the military since 1982. He has been a prominent member of both the judiciary and armed services committee. Certainly people and parties alike can find issues to disagree with the Senator, but censuring a member for having “weakened the Republican brand” while having done nothing wrong/questionable/immoral is foolish and incredibly myopic considering the current state of the Republican Party…”

SECOND: We must stand together to figh

t ACORN and the SEIU.

THIRD:

Newt is right about a new contract with America. The problem is the lying duplicity of conservatives who think they are better than we Republicans are. Compared to Newt, Beck is nothing but a seriously disturbed little snot who is doing everything possible to destroy this country in order to make money.

Case in point from Allahpundit:

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.Actually, he says Steele’s working on a statement of “first principles” which might serve as the seed for a new Contract-type platform. Which is super, except that the GOP’s whole problem right now is that conservatives don’t believe them anymore. They have no credibility with the base, which is why (a) Republican party ID is on life support even as “conservative” self-identification is ticking upwards, (b) CPAC’s handing its keynote slot to the main challenger of the NRSC’s favored candidate, and (c) grassroots conservatives are flocking to self-styled “outsiders” like Palin, Doug Hoffman, and Glenn Beck, who’s got plenty of “first principles” ideas of his own to offer them….”

NOTE TO ALLAHPUNDIT: Beck is a Losertarian. Hoffman is a Beck acolyte, and Beck is out to destroy the GOP. Anyone who works with him is duplicitous in his repulsive perfidy.

Of course, if people like

Eric Erickson have their way, a race war will erupt between the idiots on the right. This is just way too funny – and disgusting, and shows just how pathetic these yahoos really are.

The far right is making a mess in Florida. Then again, Florida could simply be Florida, and the state is suffering because there is no strong leader like Jeb Bush (which also says something about the national GOP and his big brother).
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The divide goes beyond former House Speaker Marco Rubio’s challenge to Gov. Charlie Crist in next year’s primary for the U.S. Senate. There are also divisions over party leadership and party message that have resulted in the unusual sight of contested primaries in five statewide contests. Those factions include Crist loyalists, allies of Bush upset with Crist, as well as some who are loudly critical of Republican Party of Florida Chairman Jim Greer.

While tensions have simmered since Crist veered onto a moderate, and occasionally populist, path starting from nearly his first day as governor, it was Crist’s decision to forgo a second term and seek the U.S. Senate that has helped move these battles out into the open.

Mirroring a national debate, Florida’s GOP is split over whether to move further to the right, embracing its conservative roots, or to expand its tent to reach more moderates and independents….”

There is a power-play by those in power, who want more power.

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Conservatives refuse to back off.. “The real power of the Republican Party right now is in a burgeoning, strong … grass-roots movement,” said Marjorie Dannenfelser, of the anti-abortion Susan B. Anthony List. “The more out of touch [the GOP leaders] are with their natural base, the more elections we’ll lose.”

THE GOP NEEDS MODERATES

There is nothing wrong with a moderate Republican. I know, Rush has turned them into The Enemy, but there are places where a Jim DeMint simply cannot win. Fortunately

they are starting to fight back, just a little
“RUDE” CONSERVATIVES

There is no actual civil war within

actual GOP ranks. The incivility comes from those who are NOT Republicans. If the brain dead right is calling the shots, then Mike Huckabee would not continue to be the “front-runner“.

The Tea Party People are now threatening anyone who doesn’t do exactly what they say to do. They are nothing but the usual cyclical populist movement, empowered this time by cable television and the internet. You will find the average Tea Party Person either voted for Ross Perot, Ron Paul, or embraces their philosophy of abject stupidity.

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From the perspective of Gingrich and other veteran Republicans, there is deep irony in these untoward developments. Many of the Tea Party types actually hate Republican politicians, unless, like Ronald Reagan or Barry Goldwater, they are already dead. They hate Democrats, too, of course — and lots of other people — but their invective against Republicans is suffused with special outrage.

If they have their way, every Republican who doesn’t adhere to the Beck canon will be driven out at the end of a pitchfork, just like poor Dede Scozzafava.

Fifteen years ago, when Newt rode to power on the resentments of the religious right, the gun lobby and the economic royalists, he celebrated their extremism as the political style of “normal Americans.” Today when he hears the violent rhetoric, the hateful threats and the fanatical intolerance, he knows they are talking about him, too…”

Pink Flamingo friend and confidant, Sally Vee forwarded an email from the Minuteman PAC. They are now going to threaten Republicans:

“…After Minuteman PAC stepped into the race on behalf of Hoffman to expose Scozzafava and Owens’ liberal records, Scozzafava was forced to abandon her campaign and her true colors were exposed to the entire country. . . And Minuteman PAC will continue aiming at key races where brave patriot candidates have enlisted to unseat or defeat anti-American candidates! That’s why we cannot sulk, we cannot rest, we must keep fighting. . .That’s why we’re already re-arming for the next round of primary elections in just a few months. We must begin preparing now…”

Lisa Fabrizio wrote this stupidity on Human Events:

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While no baseball team worth its salt would be without switch-hitters, in politics, those who swing both ways are most-often a detriment; to those who have strong convictions anyway. And all too often our team is forced into playing split-squad games with the Elephants on one side and the RINOs on the other. Lindsey Graham had some great success as a rookie in the House Manager’s lineup so masterfully skippered by crafty vet Henry Hyde during the Clinton Impeachment tilt back in ‘96. But since moving up to the Senate squad he has taken to batting lefty in the last few contests, making him and us look bad. There are also gals like Olympia Snowe whose most recent at-bat resulted in her being whiffed by daffy portsider Harry Reid, as she allowed the Senate Healthcare bill to come out of committee….

Republicans CANNOT win if the party is consigned to a group of purists who want ONLY their opinion heard and only their candidates selected to run for office.

You might want to read the WPost piece on Dede Scozzafava.

“...In the summer, Scozzafava and her husband, Ron McDougall, a local labor leader, retreated to their summer house at the end of a dirt road on Sylvia Lake. The place has no TV reception — a good thing, she said, given all the attack ads against her funded by the Club for Growth, the anti-tax group backing Hoffman. Still, she wasn’t entirely isolated. She heard through friends that Palin insinuated she had been “anointed” by a “political machine” because county chairs handpicked her as the nominee. Beck denounced her as “ACORN-supported” and an “Obama-Lite Republican.” Former House majority leader Dick Armey’s group FreedomWorks mobilized against her. She said she heard conservative robo-calls in the district describing her as a “child killer,” a “lesbian lover” and a “homo.” “It was organized,” she said….”
Then start putting things into perspective.

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Ultimately… The GOP is and must continue to be a movement of many perspectives, but these perspectives should share some similarity with one another. Nominating a candidate who is only with her party on gun rights in a reliably Republican district is not the way to foster continued support from traditional supporters of the party while also currying favor with those more independently minded. Success in 2010 and beyond is possible if past mistakes are not repeated….”

WANT TO WIN, SHUT BECK UP

We cannot win if LIBERTARIAN Glenn Beck is allowed to continue to call the shots for Elliott Schimel is one of the few reasonable voices getting through the conservative septic tank which is now American Thinker.

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What will happen if conservative talk show hosts like Glenn Beck target moderate Republicans in 2010? The election in NY-23 sends a clear message that moderate Republicans are targets for conservative media. This means candidates in democratic districts don’t have a snowflake’s chance in hell to win. If a candidate leans too conservative, he will lose the district; drift towards the center, and risk being attacked by Beck.

If Republican leaders are serious about taking over the House, they need to make sure Beck doesn’t launch his own jihad on moderate candidates in left-leaning districts. It’s always difficult to unseat incumbent congressmen. Republican candidates can’t afford to spend time ducking shots from their own party….”

THE BIG LOSS

Frank Rich has a NYTimes column about the absolute disaster the Tea Party People and the Far Right inflicted on themselves in NY-23. Rich is 100% correct.

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This race was a damaging setback for the hard right. Hoffman had the energetic support of Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and Fox as well as big bucks from their political auxiliaries. Furthermore, Hoffman was running not only in a district that Rove himself described as “very Republican” but one that fits the demographics of the incredibly shrinking G.O.P.

The 23rd is far whiter than America as a whole — 93 percent versus 74 — with tiny sprinklings of blacks, Hispanics and Asians. It has few immigrants. It’s rural. Its income and education levels are below the norm. Only if the district were situated in Dixie — or Utah — could it be a more perfect fit for the narrow American demographic where the McCain-Palin ticket had its sole romps last year.

If the tea party right can’t win there, imagine how it might fare in the nation where most Americans live. Some G.O.P. leaders have started to notice. Mitt Romney didn’t endorse Hoffman despite right-wing badgering to do so. On Wednesday, Michael Steele dismissed the right’s mantra that somehow Hoffman’s loss could be called a victory and instead talked up the newly elected Republican governors who won by appealing to independents and moderates. Chris Christie and Bob McDonnell are plenty conservative, but both had rejected Palin’s offers to campaign for them. They also avoided the tea party zanies, the fear-mongering National Organization for Marriage and the anti-abortion-rights zealots Hoffman embraced. They positioned themselves as respectful Obama critics, not haters likening him to Hitler….

Should the G.O.P. avoid self-destruction by containing this fringe, then the president and his party will have to confront their real problem: their identification with the titans who greased the skids for the economic meltdown from which Wall Street has recovered and the country has not. If there’s one general lesson to be gleaned from Christie’s victory over Jon Corzine in New Jersey, it’s surely that in today’s zeitgeist it’s less of a stigma to be fat than a former Goldman Sachs fat cat, even in a blue state….”

Fortunately,

there are signs that the Tea Party “patriots” are starting to self-destruct.

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“These groups don’t play as well together as they should,” said Kevin Jackson, a St. Louis-based conservative author and activist who has spoken at dozens of tea party-type rallies and is traveling across the South with a convoy sponsored by the national Tea Party Patriots group.

“They’re fractured at the organization level, I think mainly because there are a lot of people who have not had managerial experience who all of a sudden are thrust into the limelight and become intoxicated with it. And when a potential rift comes up, instead of handling it and maybe agreeing to disagree, they splinter and go off on their own.”

The movement is composed of hundreds of independent local groups, many of which are incorporated as nonprofits and have localized names referencing the tea parties, 9/12 or We the People.

Many of their members also belong to national conservative groups, including FreedomWorks, Americans for Prosperity and Grassfire, while the local groups often affiliate formally or informally with loose-knit umbrella organizations, including the Tea Party Patriots and Tea Party Nation….”

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